Is Hob a replacement for Yhdistysavain?

Not directly. Yhdistysavain is an association admin and website package — a strong public site, traditional membership invoicing (email, PDF, letter), messaging, expense reimbursements, and similar back-office tools. Hob focuses on hobby activity sign-ups, online payments from participants, and includes a built-in **Member registry** (membership seasons, classes, applications, membership fees, digital member card) inside a Hob environment — without a public website builder. Many associations need one or both in different ways.

Can we use both at the same time?

Yes, but pick one **member registry** as the source of truth. Yhdistysavain can run the website, classic membership billing, and broader admin while Hob runs weekly class seasons, waitlists, season passes, events, and its own member registry with online payments. Complementarity is often about the website and admin extras vs. depth of hobby sign-ups — not the assumption that only one product has a registry.

Which one fits if we only need a website and membership billing?

Yhdistysavain is a strong fit if you need the association’s **public website** and **membership invoicing** with letter/PDF and traditional posting workflows. Hob has no website builder, but **Member registry** covers the membership lifecycle and fees in a Hob environment using the same online payment and balance stack as other charges. If you only need a site and classic invoicing without Hob hobby workflows, Yhdistysavain is the natural first look.

Which one fits if we need weekly class sign-ups and online payments?

Hob is a strong fit for seasonal weekly classes, events, and conventions — sign-ups, waitlists, season passes, and online payments (Paytrail, Stripe, bank, ePassi, Edenred, cash, and other organiser choices) are core to a Hob environment. The same environment can include **Member registry** if you also need membership admin. Yhdistysavain’s focus is elsewhere; hobby sign-ups are not its main strength.

How does pricing differ?

Hob starts at €0 with free core features; messaging and payment collection are paid extras. Fees apply to paid participations (e.g. weekly class €0.12/participant/class, convention €1.25/participant) and in the member registry **€1.25/member/year** (VAT 25.5%) when paid add-ons are on — no fixed monthly fee. Yhdistysavain has a free tier (€0/month), paid tiers around €23–63/month (VAT 25.5%, 12-month term), and per-item fees; on the free tier, sending a membership fee invoice costs roughly around €1 per send (indicative). The choice depends on a monthly package vs. usage-based pricing.

Hob vs Yhdistysavain

Two different tools — Hob for hobby sign-ups, online payments, and member registry; Yhdistysavain for association websites and broad admin. They often complement rather than replace each other.

Create a Hob environment for free

Yhdistysavain (Vitec Avoine) is an association admin and website package — member registry, membership invoicing, messaging, expense reimbursements, digital member cards, and e-signatures. Hob combines hobby activity sign-ups and online payments (weekly classes, conventions, events) with a built-in Member registry — membership seasons and classes, applications, membership fees, and a digital member card in a Hob environment. Hob does not include a public website builder; the member registry is separate from hobby sign-ups for weekly classes, conventions, and events.

The table below shows where each is strong. The comparison is based on public product descriptions; check current pricing and features with each vendor before you decide.

Features side by side

High-level overview — not an exhaustive feature list.

Area	Hob	Yhdistysavain
Public website	No — Hob does not include a public website builder.	Yes — websites are a core part of Yhdistysavain.
Member registry / membership	{ "Yes — Member registry": "membership seasons and classes, applications and approval, membership and joining fees, digital member card, automation and roles. Distinct from hobby sign-ups (weekly classes, conventions, events).", "right": "Yes — a strong core for association member registry, membership admin, and classic membership invoicing." }
Sign-ups / seasonal activity	Strong core — seasons, weekly classes, waitlists, season passes, and events for hobbyists.	Lighter focus — not centred on hobby activity sign-ups the same way.
Payments	Online payments for participations and membership fees via Hob balance (Paytrail, Stripe, bank, ePassi, Edenred, cash, and other organiser choices).	Membership invoicing (email, PDF, letter) and bank reference tracking.
Messaging	Paid extra in a Hob environment — messages to hobbyists and participant groups.	Announcements, SMS, and letters to members.
Expense claims, digital member cards, e-signatures	Digital member card in the member registry; expense claims and e-signatures are not Hob’s focus.	Yes — part of the association admin package.
Pricing	€0 to start; core features free; with paid add-ons, fees on participations (e.g. weekly class €0.12/participant/class, convention €1.25/participant) and member registry €1.25/member/year (VAT 25.5%). No fixed monthly fee.	Free tier €0/month (membership invoice send roughly ~€1 each, indicative); Start around €23, Plus around €40, Premium around €63/month (VAT 25.5%, 12 months) plus other per-item fees.

Frequently asked questions

Common questions about how Hob and Yhdistysavain fit in an association.